The Tarot of Eli, LLC-Minor Arcana: The Declarative Tarot- Layers of Heart-No. 8-Torpid & The Thoth Tarot-Eight of Cups- Indolence.

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Above all things know thyself!

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Thoth-8 of Cups-Indolence

Lord of abandoned success.

#8. I look forward with confidence to the perfect realization of the Eternal Splendor of the Limitless Light.

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The Declarative Tarot-Layers of heart-No.8-Torpid (8 of Cups)

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Attributed to the Thoth-8 of Cups Tarot card is Saturn in Pisces. The Angels of the Decan: 

Vabaliah and Yeshivah. Here, Hod the 8th Sephiroth-Splendor is active in Briah, the Creative World. The interpretation of the Thoth 8 of Cups, since Pisces is calm and placid water it is completely deadened by the heavy influences of Saturn, whose metal is lead. We know Water, is the Element of emotion, unconsciousness, and intuitional consciousness, so what is going on within one is a deadening of interest, a complete lack of wonder.

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On the Thoth 8 of Cups, the lotuses of enlightenment droop, for lack of sun or rain (lack of new input). The Sea of Mind has become little stagnant pools in poisoned soil. All the cups are old and broken, symbolizing "an old and worn out" way of thinking. The Sun of the Soul is a pallid yellowish light barely shining through the leaden clouds of indigo. Therefore, the 8 of cups implies that the mind and emotions are on autopilot as the thought process is not conducive to expanding and liberating the Life of the person. The blood in the body is moving like molasses. This person needs stimulation!

Crowley's description of this card says it best:

"This card represents a party for which all preparations have been made; but the host has forgotten to invite the guests; or the caterers have not delivered the good cheer. There is this difference, though, that it is in some way or other the host's own fault." [Book of thoth-pg.,184]


Not my favorite card, but this dullness of mind is often necessary to warn us that it is time to evaluate our feelings and get off our indolent butt and do something that makes the blood move again.

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Indolence can be due to emotional overload (a coping device), where everything has become too serious to even contemplate. "Serious", is just another way to say "fearful" and behooves us to use humor to declassify the "serious" and reclassify it as in the "necessary or unnecessary stuff" of life. Therefore, the 8 of Cups suggests that we look at the first thing needing solution and do it. Say to yourself, "I AM the Solution! "

One thing at a time, preferably the time the issue is noticed, not "tomorrow", but now! This keeps things from piling up and making the brain a dromedary rather than an AI computer with active solutions that come in from active Spiritual Will. Where the body is reactive, the Spirit is Action; action changes the environment, while reaction doesn't, as it is just an automatic response that comes from the "false ego" buried deeply in the subconscious where it is deviously trying to avoid the past.

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The Declarative Tarot-Layers of the Heart-No.8-Torpid

The Declarative Tarot-Layers of the Heart (cups)-No.8-Torpid, is also about indolence but indolence in a state of almost comatose stature. Everything is torpid when it is too cold to move, and the metabolism slows down to a catatonic state of inactivity. This is most common in nature among birds, amphibians, and insects. This is not a recommended state for humans as this is about emotional and mental torpidity where we feel crushed under worrisome burdens and have little energy or motion in life. Here we are out of sorts, out of balance with life and with what empowers or inspires us.

On the upper left of this card is depicted a giant hummingbird who is hanging upside down in a state of torpidity. These birds are known to just hang from a branch, fence rails, or even bird feeders, feet firmly clasped although sometimes they just collapse on the ground. Here you may ask yourself are you dangling or collapsing in a state of torpor? What has caused this state? Do you know why?

In the pool is a person who has surrendered to the quietude. Sometimes we copy with overload by emotionally going into torpor. Here we hide and surrender to the undulations of other watery (element of water is cups) feelings. Those who practice daily meditation give themselves permission to be quiet and rest their brain while listening to the silence of the Inner master. However, those who collapse under the burdens of an emotionally soaked brain will drown in the depths of torpidity and try to escape in delusions and illusions. Here reigns "nervous breakdowns"! Time to willfully meditate and go within. You can do this without any extensive training in meditational arts, just by concentrating on your breathing. Just close your eyes and let them relax while concentrating on your slow inhalation of breath, slowly filling your lungs from the bottom up, and then concentrate on the slow exhale as you empty your lungs without effort...repeat until you feel relaxed from head to toe.

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Tree of Life-10 Sephirotic Beings.

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The small fish, swimming around in the pond, represent the ever-watchful Eternal Guardian who gently stirs the currents of Life force around you. You are never all alone in your wretchedness, or happiness, as the Eternal Guardian is always there in your breath and heartbeat. Your Soul/Solar Self awaits your "ah haw" moments that open your brain to solutions and intuition. Any personality that can correct itself or ask the inner self for a solution is a keeper as far as the Soul is concerned and it will reincarnate such personas as its official representative in this life and lives to come. The violet being lying sleeping under the comical toadstool is yet another metaphor for the sleeping soul who awaits your moments of action. The psyche is your Soul, and it is of Spirit. The Word spirit comes from the Greek word Spiro, which means breathe or to breathe. So once again, there is magic power in breath.

This card is about inner changes. Here the querent begins to understand that finding a spiritual path can lead one to unfamiliar places. Having embarked on an individual path of enlightenment, one must be humble and honest, especially to themselves. On such a path, one also learns that disappointment will often change you for the better as Spirit leads you towards what you need, and not necessarily towards what you want. Let go and trust the Eternal Guardian, as it always walks with you.

When the 8 of Cups or N0.8-Torpid is thrown during a reading the querent may be experiencing:

  • Exhaustion, being overly tired, drain and dull emotionally.
  • There is an unconscious change taking place, on a deep inner level of feeling.
  • There is a warning here to Pay attention to yourself...stop and examine your perspectives, this is the end of something and the beginning of something new!
  • The emotional state of stagnation and stillness. 
  • This could go on for 8 weeks or 8 months, depending on the querent's actions.
  • There is a need to focus and consolidate your emotions in an inspired way.
  • Letting go.

If ill defined by the surrounding cards in the layout, it implies:

  • Depression.
  • Self-pity.
  • Suicide.
  • Hidden joy. 
  • Turned away from the Spiritual path.

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