The Tarot of Eli, LLC-Minor Arcana: Thoth- 8 of Cups-Indolence & Gothic Tarot-8 of Cups

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Thoth-8 of Cups-Indolence

Lord of abandoned success.

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Attributed to this card is Saturn in Pisces. The Angels of the Decan: Vabaliah and Yeshivah. Here, Hod is

in Briah, the Mental World. To reiterate, Hod is the concrete mind; However, with Saturn in Pisces the 8 of Cups, being a Water sign doesn't balance Saturn's energy well. Here the consciousness takes on a leaden quality and emotion is sluggish at best. Therefore, with Saturn in a water sign, a certain amount of introspection, manifests as disinterest with material conditions. The effect, is discontent or a decline in interest in anything. Thus, one's tendency is to abandon success.

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The interpretation of the 8 of Cups, is based on the fact that Pisces, is calm and stagnant water that is completely deadened by the heavy influences of Saturn. We know Water, is the Element of emotion and intuitional consciousness, so what is going on within one is a deadening of interest, a complete lack of wonder.

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Thoth- 8 of cups-indolence

The lotuses of enlightenment droop, for lack of sun or rain. The Sea of mind has become little stagnant pools, in poisoned soil. All the cups are old and broken, symbolizing "an old and worn out" way of thinking. The Sun of Spirit, is a pallid yellowish light barely shining through the leaden clouds of indigo. Therefore, the 8 of cups implies that the mind and emotions on autopilot; thought process is not conducive to expanding and liberating the Life of the person. The blood in the body is moving like molasses. This person needs stimulation! Crowley's description of this card says it best:

"This card represents a party for which all preparations have been made; but the host has forgotten to invite the quests; or the caterers have not delivered the good cheer. there is this difference, though, that it is in some way or other the host's own fault." [Book of thoth-pg.,184]

Not my favorite card, but this dullness of mind, is often necessary to warn us that it is time to evaluate our feelings and get off of our lead filled butt and do something that makes the blood move again.

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Gothic Tarot- 8 of Cups

The Gothic Tarot- 8 of Cups, keeps with the card number represented as 8 vampire bats flying around a blood filled cup. This is fun gothic art, but the image doesn't give a clue to the meaning of the card. Indolent bats would be hanging upside down and asleep. However, the Thoth meaning applies here.

When the 8 of Cups is thrown during a reading the querent may be experiencing:

  • Exhaustion, being overly tired, drain and dull emotionally.
  • There is an unconscious change taking place, on a deep inner level of feeling.
  • There is a warning here to Pay attention to yourself...stop and examine your perspectives, this is the end of something and the beginning of something new!
  • The emotional state of stagnation and stillness. This could go on for 8 weeks or 8 months, depending on the querent's actions.
  • There is a need to focus and consolidate your emotions in an inspired way.
  • Letting go.

If ill defined by the surrounding cards in the layout:

  • Depression. 
  • Self-pity.
  • Suicide.

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