The Tarot of Eli, LLC: The Thoth Tarot- 7 of Cups- Debauch & The Night Sun Tarot- 7 of Cups

western hermetic qabalah, tantric, astrological, alchemical, and numerical Tarot Card Comparisons:

· night sun tarot

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Thoth-7 of cups-debauch

Represents emotional over extension where depression is causing us to over-indulge in certain habits to avoid pain. This card indicates that imagination is running away with itself and we have a problem with facing reality. There is suggested here that there is a tendency for us to emotionally wallow in negative emotions of the past rather than changing our moods to live in the now of reality. Overindulgence in food, drink, drugs, smoking , gambling, sexual antics, even shopping ...all from a tendency to feel sorry for ourselves. In other words, the 7 of cups represents a self destructive way of coping with depression, or uncomfortable issues that one doesn't want to face by indulging in distracting patterns of excessive behavior.

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The Night Sun Tarot- 7 of cups

The astrological symbol of the 7 of Cups Tarot card is Venus in Scorpio; Venus represents love and beauty, but is internally corrupted, while Scorpio represents transformation and deep-emotional exploration. This suggests that a choice has to be made with much care and consideration during a time of run-away imagination and innumerable thoughts. This confusion is only enhanced by the abundant creativity, artistic talent and energy of the querent, which is well illustrated on the Night Sun Tarot-7 of Cups.

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In the Qabalistic Tarot, Netzach, is the 7th Sephira; that Venus-green Sephiroth on the lower illustrated Tree of Life, Netzach/Victory is the ruling intelligence of all the Tarot 7's.

Green is the color attributed to Venus, and indicates, love, feelings and instinct, the Group Mind, Nature, and the Arts, all of which radiate from this Sephiroth. However, the metal attributed to Venus is copper and green is also the symbol for the internal corruption of copper. The Symbols for Netzach are The Girdle, The Rose. and the Lamp.

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  • The Rose is attributed to Venus and often associated with Love, as the most perfect flower.
  • Traditionally the Girdle is also an attribute of Venus and to learn the secret of the knot in her Girdle means to direct the Venus forces of nature, i.e. tie them up or release them at will.
  • The Lamp is the bearer of Fire relating Netzach to Geburah and the powerful warring forces of Mars. The lamp is also known on another level, as the ever-burning light of the Temple of Lower Self.
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Netzach is the first Sephiroth of the Astral triangle or The Formative World, Yetzirah, and is the first energy intelligence to make up the personality of the individual.

You may remember that I stated that the Personality is made up of the Four Alchemical Elements, each of which are represented by the lower Sephira, in the familiar sequence of Fire, Water, Air and Earth. On the Qabalistic Tree of Life, Netzach-#7 is Fire, Hod-#8 is Water, Yesod-#9 is Air and Malkuth-#10 is Earth. Which in mundane language means our personalities are composed of Spirit, Imagination/emotion, Mind and physical matter-in that order. Therefore, our personalities are a psychosomatic simulation of the Collective Self.

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Netzach is the lower form of the fiery Yod of Chokmah that is reflected from Geburah through Tiphareth. This is the formula for Yod Heh Vau Heh(Hand-Window/Sight-Nail/Hook-Window/sight), The Arcane name of the Divine Creative. Malkuth being the final Heh, because of the "fall" which is really a condensing or "down sizing" of Self from Macrocosm to Microcosm. In other words, the Heh, a Hebrew simple letter meaning -sight, starts out as the "I" sight of the All Seeing One-Kether, and becomes, through the process of light condensation, the individual "I" sight of a personality on Malkuth. The symbol of the eye, is a symbol for Identity, and/or "I" sight.

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In Netzach, normal waking consciousness of the student, must deal with the Astral Triangle composed of Netzach, Hod, and Yesod, the combination produces many fantasies and the component parts (perspectives)of the Personality that were or were not original. After all, we are not of the Personality (From the Greek-Persona- meaning mask), for it is of the Spiritual-Psyche Nature,and/or Soul, who is the Real Person, experimenting with Self-Awareness through the establishment and operation of a "personality" simulation program! Personalities are therefore, a type of Avatar created by very advanced software programs of Self-Awareness that are created to operate and experimental identity, as an adaptive form with Sensual Hardware (or brain Wet-ware). Personalities, must prove themselves by successful adapting to, and becoming creative in their environment, all under the observation of the Psyche. Therefore, the Soul or Real Person is not of the physical world, but that of the Solar Self (Solar Logos or Christ/Buddha consciousness) we call Tiphareth-the 6th Sephiroth.

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However, the personalities original "software", has been perverted by man-made cultural indoctrination. Since sensation is often new to the Real Person, and the fact that it is needed to aid in discernment, there are no programs in one's personality to block "pleasure pain training", which is often called "brain washing". Therefore, the original "wet ware", is invaded by the "fear of pain" virus of our Pavlovian guided experiment called "society", and/or "peer pressure". This fear of pain virus is cleverly engineered, by religious and ruler sponsored social experiments over centuries, to attach itself to the normal animal mind's fear of rejection; expanding that fear far beyond a child's fear of parental rejection to that of anyone who has the "color" of authority, including a ruler sponsored god. Rulers always sponsor god, for the "fear of god", for superstition goes to the basic instincts of the survival mind. Hence, mob fear, attacks anyone who dares to not "believe". This profaning of self, causes most people's emotional self identity to be kept as that of a 9 year old or lower. This emotional lack of growth, really messes up personal- self authority, as well as, adult-relationships!

Therefore, your personality was made for you out of the illusions, delusions, and ambitions of "Authority", leaving one with confusion and mental interference as to who or whom is the author of their identity. In other words, one hasn't a clue who is operating the body and fear the "devil" or some "evil" must be influencing them or their "life", as the virus is automatically done by the unconscious and therefore, out of the realm of conscious reason. One just automatically becomes a slave to their environment and the fantasy world of words. Remember, the definition of a Ruler, is "one who enforces identity"! Hence, the swamp like quality of the Thoth 7 of Cups, states that one is in a state of perverted emotion, caused by excessively reacting to environments because of fear of confrontation and/or pain; rather than acting in the environment, as a spiritual power.

Yet again the axiom of Qaballah: "Above all things, Know thyself!" rings true! Or better yet, "Above all things, is the Real Self"!

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The most important part of Qabalistic initiation is to observe the layers of lies, that your personality is constructed from, removing layer after layer of false you, until the Real Person shines through the illusion. These layers of Authority sponsored lies are call "Garbage in". This "garbage in" makes the man-made persona and the "Garbage out" is the dysfunctional action of "seeking yourself" in the eyes of your peers, or of an outside authority. You are already Spirit-Soul- approved----you exist, and your Software for operating the Wet-ware of your brain, was already created by a Higher Self Identity and/or Real Person who is the "Golden Child" of the Divine Creative. You are already optimal for the job you are to be.

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Often, Mystery schools use a set of Tattva exercises as a type of "controlled day dream" (guided meditations), intended to bring the student into direct contact with the subtle elemental realms immediately underlying the material sphere of sensation. When teaching the Qabalah, I bring those elemental realms into sensual manifestation for my students, all of which is necessary to prepare the student for more advance techniques of skrying with Tarot Cards. The Student learns that the 78 Tarot Cards, are 78 fragments of Self, that they must rejoin into a fractal, to become "Holy" and/or Whole Self.

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It should be understood, that the astral realm beginning with Netzach, is a fluid, non-solid electromagnetic psycho-somatic realm of the Deep Subconscious, where everything begins in illusion/dream. It is the place, where our Formative consciousness can experiment with image, such as children role-playing, in order to comprehend in a later stage of growth, the actual manifestation of being an adult. If done with mirth and self control, this is a boon to any creative endeavor on Earth; if taken as rote, all hell will break loose on earth!

The Astral nor its denizens of personal illusions are not Masters of your personality! Nor is anything that you contact in it, your ruler, for most of the Astral denizens are lost personalities, or superstition built demons and/or "psychic engines" built by the Priestesses and Priests of ancient ritualized religions all "living" in the Sub-Conscious fear based survival mind.

The Simulation Hypothesis of quantum physics, already has proven mathematically, through physical observation, that all we see is a simulation. All light is a wave, all of the electromagnetic spectrum is wave lengths, there are no particles, until we "observe them" and/or believe them into being. This is also true when concerning identity, what you believe you are... you are!

Therefore the Astral plane of "liquid light", is Your malleable psychic -thought-substance to create with, not to be created by! Most " Medium-Channels" just channel astral persona's, and live in an illusion of devotional thought, not allowing them to see the delusions that hold their identity in subservience. When one "knows themselves" they find out that they are Self-Images of the Divine Creative, and therefore, subservient to no one or anything, for even Angels are another angle of light waves, as all gods are creations of the created.

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Let me explain what few wish you to know: A god is a dominate Collective Consciousness on its Plane of Dominion. Every one of the Ten Sephiroth, is a god in its sphere of influence. Each of us are composed of the United cooperation and/or a Collective of these energy intelligentsia we call "gods" (microcosmic Demi-urges or Sephiroth), which contribute to the make up the One Divine Creative-Macrocosm. You also are a Divine Creative, a Macrocosm (Spirit) that creates your own Microcosm (Personality), for you have power over all Light and can imagine it into any form of "self identity".

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Each of us have even manifested the "earth demi-god" form, master of matter (photons/electrons), who uses imagination to create idea into form, for just by observing a "thing" we change it. Each of us have also composed a body of the Animal "god", Top Mammal Predator, ruler of its domain, and the 6th Sephirotic Christos and call it the Human body (Human means, "God Mind" as it comes from Hu-Mandarin for-god and Manas, Hindu for Mind)! So, You as The Real Person, is a Great Collective Grouping of Ten demi-gods, who should be working as One Group Soul- fractal, of your individual Tree of Life, called in Qabalah, the Adam Khadmon...A One Conscious Collective/Holy Spirit/ Higher Self. The fact that you are not now master of your masterpiece, is because you've been mentally separated from the reality of your divinity! This was done by the manipulation of "your" imagination,(auto-suggestion) by "The few who wish to rule the many", i.e., Rulers, who are those who control definition! They have received this control by deception, for instance, getting you to believe that you have imagination, rather than you are Imagination (I-Magi-nation)! These enforcers of identity, those few who wish to rule, have defined your body as a perversion of spirit that must be fled from by ascention, to gain Wholeness (Holiness). This concept divorces one from the most condensed and therefore sensual aspect of Spiritual Forms, thus, separating one's Soul/psyche from willfully operating one's own creation (imagination means "to image make") and therefore making one "incomplete" in their own "I's". One is only "Wholly" Spirit, when they have mastered all 10 planes of Intelligence------Malkuth is "planetary intelligence", that must be mastered by the "Solar intelligence" of the Christ-self identity...not enslaved but enjoyed! If one believes they must flee this realm to ascend unto heaven, rather than bring "heaven" (Tiphareth-Beauty) to earth as themselves; they are not "holy" as they are rejecting a manifestation of self-awareness that has taken 14 billion years to create and therefore, incomplete! "As above, so below", doesn't mean to devalue the below, but rather to enhance it and/or expand and liberate the below by being the Real Person manifested on earth.

We all must return consciously to the Astral, by meditation, skrying and lucid dreaming, thereby using willed image to clean up our identity software on earth!

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When we are dealing with Netzach, we are dealing with understanding a particularly difficult State of energy conscious . Netzach is where both the Macrocosm and Microcosm meet. Thus we are dealing with the understanding of the entire race patterns of human kind, the Soul fractal of persona's and patterns of individual persona. As if that isn't enough, we must understand that this dichotomy is in itself an illusion! In other words, we as a personality, are to become a Mercury, a Magus, which is a "messenger of the gods" as we travel consciously up and down the Tree of Life, carrying all the knowledge needed thereof, for today's proper function.

To reiterate: NETZACH is the 7th Sephiroth, ruler of the sevens, is where feelings, and instincts begin. Netzach is undifferentiated and the Sephiroth of Group Mind. It is connected to it's opposite, the eighth Sephiroth- HOD-whose attributes are of the intellect, individualization, and beginnings of the individual mind.

When observing this balance we can see that Netzach is the Sephiroth to which the forces of Nature are attributed.

The Angels of this Sephiroth are called Elohim, often called the gods, because they are for the personality in incarnation and for the human race. Also, Netzach is the Sphere of Venus-Aphrodite, the Goddess of Love. Thus Netzach -Victory, implies that the Victory is in Love of Being. Remember, Hu-man means God Mind, which declares us Elohim Malachim and/or Gods of the Elements!

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The spark (fire is Spirit) of the individual mind begins in the Group Soul-Fire that is Netzach, and becomes part of a group of identities that are self-comprehending/ or self aware, while also comprehending the Whole. Therefore, it is not all surprising that the arts, music, painting, poetry and all other things of creative imagination, are attributed to the Netzach/Hod union.

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The 7 of Cups-, also known as the: Lord of Illusory Success, because here the Moon is in Aquarius. Therefore, here is Netzach in Yetzirah, influencing the illusions of the Astral World .

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In the 7 of Cups, is assigned Venus in the zodiacal sign of Scorpio, creating a very intense and emotional presence that is often involved in deceit, of self or others. There is also a tendency to wallow in emotions, and/or self-deception to the point of dissipation, as is depicted on the Night Sun Tarot 7 of Cups. This does make it a card of egocentricity and selfishness.

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Thus Crowley and Lady Freda Harris, imply a great warning in this card, as the lotuses are slimy, and ugly, a perversion of the sacrament of the cup in the Six; a perversion usually brought about by over-inflating the ego or staying locked in past emotions. The consciousness is polluted and the card implies, error, illusion and illusionary success, by denying the failure of past emotions to do the job of present being.

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The 7 of Cups- seems such a large step into the negative after the Six of Cups-Pleasure; The 6 and 7 are both astrologically Scorpio, but instead of Scorpio being exalted in the Sun as in the 6, in the 7 of Cups, Scorpio is governed by Venus and Venus is ill dignified in the sign. Venus is the planet of Copper, She is all "external splendor and internal corruption", such superficiality in a martial and watery sign as Scorpio destroys any altruistic tenancies, turning the amiability of Venus into a grosser sensuality.

Many of us fail to see that our individual body and consciousness, are a holy sacrament of communion, rather we debase ourselves with a grosser sensuality, with thoughts of lack, or superiority (bad and good), when neither exist, as body or consciousness. Sensuality is for the expansion and liberation of the Mind, allowing us to examine, with extreme intimacy, our creations!

We are One, who is Many. The Many are the Sacred Sacraments of the One. In other words, our incarnate consciousness is a formal sacred act or rite of Spirit and our Soul-Psyche, is made of many personalities, each new personality a composite of the past. It is the rite of Spirit and the Universal collective unconscious, to become Sensually Self Aware through the sacrament of creation! I AM ME! Is a declaration of an Elohim Yod, a Christos or Buddha, who is self aware.....and now can discriminate self thoughts from organized group thoughts.

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Thoughts, are the "First Matter", also symbolized as fish. Since we are the unconscious ocean of imagination, combined with the awareness of "First Matter" manipulation, i.e. conscious ideas of identity and/or self-image, makes us Supreme in our creations! We are not only Imagination, the Feminine unconscious and builder of Form, but we are also Energy in motion-The Masculine conscious movement that animates form. This goes against social conditioning which states emotions are a woman's domain. Energy-in-Motion is vibration, frequency, etc. It is attributed to the Divine Masculine. Form is Imagination's domain, which is the Divine Feminine. Therefore, we are all an androgynous copy of the United Divine Feminine and Divine Masculine. In other words, we are what the Self that has become by Uniting the Unconscious/imagination/ feminine and the Conscious-ratiocination/masculine as one emotive functionary! A person who is all tied up in self absorbed pain-creation is a swamp of past emotion and/or "past self". To believe "we are not...", really just states that we are creating ourselves as a "Lack" or a hole in time, an "I Ain't" rather than an "I AM". We are perverted by denying our own immortal sacredness with the 2 dimensional thinking of the good/bad survival mind of the animal, who fears its mortality. By untying the "not" of thoughts that have been installed by social pleasure/pain training, we become masters of Existence---the I AM ME, rather than the polluted thoughts of a "I Wanna-Be Me and or not me".

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Therefore the 7 of Cups, as depicted on the Night Sun Tarot, mundanely represents a dreamy state of mind where reality is a fractal of dreams, watery visions, fantasy or imagination and is not connected to anything in Real Life. Therefore, there is a self conscious that is determined to make something from dreams but has difficulty in deciding among the abundant choices.The sacred octagon as a halo depicts the balanced union of the Divine feminine and Masculine, implying a cooperation between the unconscious and consciousness. The upside down triangle on his loin cloth is representative of the element of water.

Now the influence of Venus, with it's internal corruption, is an act of violence in water signs, and becomes intense physical passion which unless gratified, will become hatred. However, even when such intense physical passion is reciprocated, it will be stormy to the extreme. It may also end in tragedies and treacheries.

Such extreme violence of feelings, may also end in poor health, since no matter the physical strength of the person, the emotional strength of desires, without willful discernment, are even stronger and may eventually lead to dangerous excess. Therefore, Debauchery is an appropriate title for the 7 of Cups.

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As stated: The number 7 refers to Netzach (Victory) and is the number of the Goddess (Water). Venus is the Goddess of Love, redoubling the influence of the number 7. In the Egyptian Thoth Tarot, 7 is a number called Seshat or Sephet, the Egyptian female counterpart of Thoth. She was known as the mistress of measure, and was said to always attended the foundation ceremonies of temples. Her emblem was a seven-petaled flower and was found on the earliest inscriptions. Thus, the correspondence/harmony between 7 and measure was known in the onset of ancient Egypt. However, in the Thoth 7 of Cups, we have an excess of measure, shown as a slimy overflow or in the Night Sun Tarot as a submersion.

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On the Thoth Tarot Card, to carry forth this idea of excess, the poisoned lotuses have become tiger lilies and the cups are iridescent, (dissolving in the Force), and are arranged into two descending triangles, interlaced with the larger lower cup-showing a greater lower influence on the emotions, as it floats in a slime covered morass of putrefaction. This card is almost a "evil reverse" image of the Six in the reflective world of matter; Zealotry, fanaticism are such evils, often substituted for love.

The 7 of Cups, is a wholesome reminder of the fatal ease with which a Sacrament, such as the "Flesh", may be profaned and prostituted simply by losing ones balance with Kether (Higher Mind), and straying ever so slightly from the middle pillar (Balance of Masculine and Feminine), thereby making the holiest mysteries of Nature become the obscene and shameful secrets of a guilt ridden consciousness.

When the Seven of Cups-Debauch is thrown:

  • The querent is being caution about the apparent Victory of Denial.
  • There is a suggestion of deceit, promises unfulfilled, illusion, and error.
  • Slight success may be experienced, a minor victory so to speak, but not enough energy to retain it.
  • The querent maybe experiencing drunkenness, wrath, vanity. lust and promiscuity or even violence against women; a violence which is not limited to the male sex.
  • This card bespeaks of selfish dissipation.
  • Deception in love and friendship.
  • Let it be said, this is a card of passions run afoul because of too much fantasy and denial.

To the querent:

  •  This card is a warning that the sacrament of pleasure is being perverted by the survival mind and has made pleasure a egocentric need/delusion rather than a spiritual awareness. 
  • Time to Know Thyself as a Spiritual Entity who owns a physical body and is in command of the senses rather than wallowing in them as a emotionally stagnant identity.
  • This is a warning that must be heard and understood if we are ever to expand and liberate our bodies mental-emotional function from animal emotional reality and to install the Real of Spirit as conscious energy-in-Motion.
  • 7 weeks or 7 months, you are willing to move through indulgent or addictive patterns.
  • This is shown by the number 7, which represents the Key 7-Charioteer, that is the principle of change and movement and also the Goddess Seshat,  who represents measure.
  • In this case the number 7  indicates an inner spiritual/emotional support to assist you in your movement through depression and debauch patterns.
  • This card is about-emotion in fact, and it shows emotion being expressed in negative ways, rather than facing our feelings and solving them in positive non victim ways.
  • The 7 of cups, suggest a willingness to change and move on but some confusion on how to go about it without undue pain.
  • You may also be experiencing negative emotions from the past; 7 years ago or when you were 7, during some relationship crisis or family crisis.
  • This card suggests that you may want to move on and that you are no longer willing to carry the emotional burdens of the past family debauch or indulgent patterns of the past.
  • This also indicates that you may no longer tolerate the debauch patterns of others in your life or the indulgent dynamics of the Scorpio people in your life (October 21 to November 21).


  • Emotional over extension.
  •  A state of depression where one tries to ease the pain by overindulgence.
  • The imagination running away with itself and the resulting patterns are depleting the persons energy.
  • This is the place of Dreams, so it could be the ability to conjure up visions, fantasies, but the vision is watery, making it difficult to see reality. 
  • There is a implication of true talent and insight, but tending towards fantasy, illusion and unrealistic attitudes. The surrounding cards will support this latter  interpretation.

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