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Thoth- 5 of Cups-Disappointment

Lord of Loss in Pleasure.

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The 5 of Cups: Disappointment.

Many people inappropriately term some tarot cards as "bad" and others as "good" which is the two-dimensional thinking of our culture. This is assuredly errant thought as the Tarot is about conscious energy and its movement as "your multidimensional life". Therefore, the 5's, which have often been termed as bad, are really the necessary disruption of the placidity of the 4's. Your inner-self is telling the outer-self it is time to move! This is also true for the 5 of cups. Emotional disappointment makes us fragile (the five glass cups), and vulnerable. Like the murky sea in the background we become depressed and then angry, as the orange/red sky. We are now off balance (the askew star) and feeling uprooted (the lily pads with falling lotus blossoms). The transformational aspect of disappointment is shown by the universal sign of the butterfly (the roots of the lily pads in the shape of a butterfly). The upside down form of a pentagram, isn't an "evil" symbol, but rather a symbol of the sensuality of matter defeating the will of spirit. Here, one isn't thinking in their favor as they are reacting more emotionally than thinking at all.

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There should be no trouble here as astrologically this card is attributed to Mars in Scorpio; Mars is the planet associated with vitality, assertiveness and dynamic activity. Scorpio is the sign of depth, and occult passions. Besides, Mars rules Scorpio! Mars is very happy to be in the House of Scorpio and this is also the 5th Sephiroth's-Geburah's Martian home. So there should be celebration and full beer mugs all around! What may not be seen here is that Mars is too happy to be here and he is so excited he doesn't even indulge in foreplay. This makes Scorpio nervous, for this Martian blast of enthusiasm retards what might have otherwise been a slow process of passionate decay that Scorpio uses to devour her lovers. Thus disappointment is felt deeply "to the core" here. Therefore, this is not a trivial disappointment such as not getting the right color of car, but a real stinging disappointment that in the next 5 weeks or 5 months has been or will be experienced. There could also be 5 years of disappointment or disappointment that goes back to a period 5 years ago or even disappointment that has been experienced deeply when you were 5 years old and is still influencing your present emotional state. All of these meanings are determined by where the card lays in the reading.

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Therefore the 5 of Cups implies that it's now time to transform your emotion into a free butterfly rather than a "worm" in a hard shell of disappointment. Stuff happens to the just and unjust alike and by releasing disappointment, we can then turn anger into a personal ambition to create more motion in our life! This card states, “Release the past, for that is a dead place, fly forward into the sunny now!"

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As I have previously stated, Geburah, the 5th Tee of Life Sephiroth, that rules the four 5's, may be severe but she brings a necessary corrective in our lives. Severity corrects by tearing away all that is useless thought, and emotion; all that is outdated and unproductive.

Due to education most of us thing we understand physics 101 and the first law of thermodynamics that states there is only one energy that we can't create, nor can we destroy it. We can however, transfer it and transform it. Transformation is a process of deconstructing and then reconstructing that which is envisioned, thus what seems to end is merely change. This transformation is easily seen in the material world, as what was living, becomes food, and food then becomes putrefied recycling, which enable organic matter to become a living thing again.

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In the 5 of Cups card's association with Scorpio and Mars, transmitting of energy is done sexually or in some form of intimacy and/or communication, where we are in communion with someone or something. Such as the intimacy of healers. Or shamanistic rites if human, or the universal sexuality of electrons transferring charge. The flow of this vital force is often called love, as such we could say that the intimacy of the negative pole as it joins with a positive pole of a magnet proves love. But being Spiritual beings, we know Love is more that just energy flow, it is a communion of multiple attributes that are even more apparent when a physical Spiritual body is present, such as, a human who is Spirit-Mind-Body. To the enfleshed Spirit, Intimacy is not just physical touching, tasting, smelling, hearing or seeing, even though those are usually involved; Intimacy is where one Auric Field/the Mind and Emotions blends with another; one of female force to a male force. Energy weaving into a new pattern for both parties. A multiplication of 7 dimensions weaving with another 7 dimensions, becoming 49. These 49 are really a numeric or gemantic 4+ 9= 13 and Key 13 is the Death Card, which means a "Spiritual Transformation".

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However wonderful energy in motion is, it also has an end or transformation. That would be the second law of Thermodynamics where"...all things proceed from order to disorder", so a Master Weaver of Self, would see the disorder in Self patterns, and deconstruct them and reconstruct a new order of Self-Tapestry which is an emotional reconstruction of Self-awareness. However, most of us aren't seeing ourselves as Master Weavers of e-motion. Here's where Geburah steps in to assist us, she makes us view the disorder, and as a corrective, we can now remove the old and build the new. As a ternary Master of creation (Sprit-Mind-Body), we must know emotion (energy-in-motion) as a willed action rather than a spontaneous reaction to indoctrination and dogma.

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Let me reiterate: The 5 of cups is also known as Lord of loss in pleasure. Here the planet Mars is in Scorpio. The angels of the Decan are: Livoyah and Pehilyah. As the 5 of cups, Geburah is influencing the Mental World, Geburah in Briah.

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thoth- 5 of cups disappointment

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By now you may know that the Alchemical Element-Water is intuitive and emotional consciousness, and a sever situation is sensually presented in the 5 of Cups. Mars is violent energy and in the water sign Scorpio, this produces an extremely powerful emotional effect.

The once full cups are empty, implying loss of that which is loved, Geburah is fiery of nature, and still water is totally at odds with this active force, thus causing a disturbance and loss of pleasure. This card, if supported by the accompanying cards, can even mean death of a loved one. The inverted pentagram represents the triumph of matter over spirit and where disturbance arises in the middle of ease. One forgets, that if you do not expect, you will avoid disappointment. For as Mustapha Jahaladine Rumi, a 12th century Sufi Master stated: Surprises are the greatest gift of all!

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Gothic Tarot- 5 of Cups

What is lost to you.

The Gothic Tarot of Anne Stokes-5 of Cups, show 5 bats fliting about 1 patricianly blood filled cup. The 5 bats seem to be disappointed in that they can't reach the blood in the cup. Like I said before, you must know basic tarot before you get this deck.

When the 5 of cups is thrown during a reading:

  • The querent has been or will be experiencing emotional disappointment for 5 weeks or 5 months.
  • Usually implications of relying too much on others for love, rather than loving themselves.
  • Here, there is a certain crying over past events, an experience of grieving over what has been lost or unlearned.
  • Emotional discord as one begins to adapt.
  • This is a card of regret, loss and separation. The corrective of Geburah is being applied here, and it is the beginning of recovery where one see’s the need to learn something new.
  • When this card is thrown you may want to release past patterns of disappointment either with the Scorpio people in your life and/or in the next 5 weeks or 5 months be no longer willing to hold onto past disappointments and will make a conscious decision to let them go.

When the 5 of Cups is ill defined by the surrounding cards in the layout:

  • Bitterness.
  • Desolation.
  • Remaining in the crisis. 
  • Painful perceptions.

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